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. a housing cyclone that hollowed out more homes that hurricane katrina and sandy combined. the very definition of disaster needs broadening. we need to recapture the initial horror created by those single natural disaster and put it toward the relief of our on going national disasters. the energy gathered by gale force winds has the power to focus our public attention. superstorm sandy may help the electorate focus in the few days that remain in the 2012 presidential campaign. our vote on tuesday will be for a disaster manager and chief taking charge of a country in an economic state of emergency, building a society that leaves all of us more prepared for disaster. at my table is ari melber, msnbc contributor. norry tan dan, kate dawson and david rodi, a reuters columnist and contributor for the atlantic. thank you all for being here. >> i want to start with you. the article, the piece you wrote was about the inequalities that have been revealed in the con te context of sandy. >> i am one of the privileged new yorkers. there has always been divisions in the city but this storm broug
, this storm costs upwards of $50 billion, making it the second costliest storm after katrina. but atlantic city studios are allowed re-entry today. 95 sandy related deaths are reported in the u.s., including two brothers, ages 2 the and 4, and new york city staten island tt he centepicenter of the casu today. many are remaining powerless and they're not homeless, as well. and residents say the response is coming a bit too late. >> every single person on this block lost everything. >> we just want everyone to know that we are hurting down here and we need help immediately. >> msnbc's richard lui is now in staten island with more for us. richard, good morning. >> thomas, very good morning to you. we're right here by the bay. several marinas in staten island and this corner has been hurt so much. if you lived in this area, you would have 30, 40-foot tall yachts sitting in your front yard. i was speaking with representative michael grim a little earlier. this is his district. and i asked him about the shelters. where are people going and what do they need? this is what he told me. >> they need
hurricane katrina in 2005, the governor said that sandy's damage was actually more widespread. >> when you look at the number of homes and businesses affected, this storm affected many, many more people in places than katrina. and arguably, therefore, this created more housing and economic damage than katrina. >>> new jersey which suffered massive damage to its transit system and coastline estimates that it nearly has $30 billion in damage. >>> u.n. ambassador susan rice is heading to capitol hill today to meet with some of her toughest republican critics and answer questions about the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayotte. >> that should be fun. >> that could be really awkward. they all accuse her of misleading the country in her initial account of the attack. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism, and rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night senator graham rejected her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >>
repetitive. it dulls the ears. here he doesn't have to mention bush. it's in everyone's head. katrina is recalled with the im. talk about fema, people think about the bush legacy. and so, he doesn't have make those contrastic splits, never mind about mitt romney, that helps him because he's doing stuff and it's all out there without the effort. >> you get the unearned assist from michael brown coming out. >> we'll talk about brownie. >> you couldn't ask for that. you couldn't make that bet. >> but there's karen welcome. hi. >> welcome to the show. i want to say, it's not just the presidential thing. it's also -- there's incredibly moving -- let's not forget the human toll this storm's taken. >> absolutely. >> the images of the president consoling americans in the wake of this massive disaster are incredibly powerful images. and what you heard in the president, what you heard from the president on the stump just now was empathy, this sense that he is fighting for you, that you have a seat at the table, middle class, working class americans, that he is there for you. and that fundamenta
and disasters i'm absolutely confronted by these two americas, the katrina/fema reaction and the sandy/fema reaction and the reality is to argue there hasn't been a significant political response to the significance of fema by different governments and it's not split down party lines. it's simply not true. there was a really great article in "mother jones" that took you through -- >> the development of fema competence. >> right. and who had headed fema and the way that presidents had appointed those fema heads were directly related to how they perceived their significance. so, for example, george bush actually allocated michael brown who was the former -- i just had to read this out, because i was just blown away. michael brown who was the former commissioner of judges and stewards for the international arabian horse association, that's who headed fema. clinton was the first -- was the first president to allocate the fema head who actually had experience -- >> disaster. >> -- disaster management. it's not political. it's about poverty. it's about race. and when we think about disaster
up in flames and four other houses. >> we think back about katrina and what a big impact that was on our country, we rarely think about the wind and the rain that was the initial storm, we think of the aftermath. right now we're in the aftermath period in terms of sandy. tell me how you feel about that. and before we get to rebuilding, people taking care of continuing damage right now, how do you assess the coordination between the state, federal, and local municipalities? >> i think we're doing very well. i think the president's response has been terrific, really. it's been coordinated unlike some of what happened in katrina. and you heard governor christie, who is a republican with president obama working together, and that's how it's been from the president, to the governor, to the counties and the towns. one of the things that i did today was talk to fema about trying to get an office and staff person in various parts of the district today, and they're working on it, and with the money that comes to downs for recovery to rebuild board walks or municipal buildings, i t
a comparison with hurricane katrina. i want to use it as an analogy. but the analogy here that might be helpful, we think back to katrina and what that meant to us as a nation. we very rarely think about the wind and the rain that was the initial storm. right now we are in the aftermath period of this superstorm, sandy. how do you feel in terms of dealing with the aftermath, describing those explosions, these ongoing worries. before we get to rebuilding, rescuing people, taking care of continuing damage right now. how would you assess the response and the coordination between the federal government, the state government, municipalities. how are we doing? >> i think we're doing very well. i mean, you heard the president, and i have to say that i think his response has been terrific, really. and it's been coordinated, unlike some of what happened in katrina. and you heard, you know, governor christie, who's a republican, with president obama, working together. and that's how it's been, from the president to the governor, all the way down to the county and the towns. so one of the things that i di
of katrina because he knew how to get the job done. what do you think of that? when parties get their butts kicked like democrats did in '72, republicans did in '64, when they thought they had -- well, those races didn't look good to begin with, but right now what do you do when you're in a party leadership position? >> if they don't adhere to what bobby jindal is talking about, the senator from new hampshire. if they don't understand haley barbour, i can assure you democrats are really going to get that message and, believe me, if democrats organized the red state like they did in ohio this time around or like they did in florida this time around or like they did in one or two other states this time around, those red states would send the numbers that nancy pelosi needs to become speaker again. and that's going to happen if the republicans keep thinking like mitt romney. >> you know, that's the question, ashley, and that is as you see the demographic changes, younger voters tend to be more liberal. a lot of hispanic people moving into the country having a lot of kids and voting and being c
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at home, new york governor andrew cuomo calls superstorm sandy more impactful than hurricane katrina. now both new york and new jersey are asking for a combined total of more than $71 billion in federal aid. in new york, the money would pay not only for cleanup and recovery, it would also be used to try and limit damage for future storms. new jersey which saw heavy damage to its transit system and shoreline suffered nearly $30 billion in losses. >>> meanwhile, new jersey governor christie has now filed papers seeking re-election. >>> and now for a look at your national weather, let's turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins. he's tracking that weather channel forecast. good morning to you, bill. >> sensitive topic when you start comparing storms to katrina and all these. >> it does. >> it's like any big event. >> absolutely. >> yeah, over 1,000 people died and monetarily there's issued. every storm is different as we learned with sandy and all the other big hurricanes that have hit this country. we're not dealing with anything too bad today. if you have travel plans on the east coast, pay at
their lives. >> you remember this back with katrina, the same thing happened where a lot of residents in new orleans had seen a lot of hurricanes before. and they heard this is going to be the storm of century, and nothing ever happened to their houses, and they ignored evacuation orders. you can't -- there's only so much preparation you can do. you can never create a risk-free society. you can't prepare for everything. you know, but one of the things that has to happen in these situations for things to work right is for the government has a part to play, but individuals have a part to play, too. you've got to be working together so when people -- some of these people, obviously, their pain is genuine and totally understandable. but some of these people did, you know, were told to leave and didn't leave. and you understand why they didn't. it makes sense in human terms, but, you know, there is a responsibility that you have for yourself in addition to what the government obviously has for you. and again, if both sides are woaren't working together, that's when things fall apart. >> the perso
melbourn msnbc contributor, katrina vanden hoover and former rnc starm the notorious michael steele. the launch pad for peace may be in cairo. in the last 24 hours egypt has been mediating high-stakes discussions between israeli and hamas leaders. speaking today egyptian prime minister hish m kandil said -- in gaza, palestinian medical officials report 95 people have been killed in gaza including 23 children. for the second straight day, israel bombed a building housing local and international media. the target of the attack was a commanding member of an islamic jihad group who also had an apartment in the building. meanwhile, hamas continues to send rockets deep into israel. last night, israel's iron dome intercepted two rockets headed for tel aviv. yesterday, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu had tough talks on twitter writing we are exacting a heavy price from hamas and the terrorist organizations. the idf is prepared for a significant expansion of its operation. in a press gaggle on route to cambodia this morning, deputy national security adviser ben rhodes says the whit
lewinsky, katrina, they have happened during second terms. how does president obama avoid the kind of second-term disaster that has crippled so many presidencies? and, canned nuts the crazy conspiracy theories that the right wing spun this election season. here's one from rush limbaugh. democrats manipulated the weather forecast in tampa so the republicans would cancel the first day of their convention. really, rush? that's not even the nuttiest one. let me finish with a letter from the war front that a young pt vote commander once wrote years before he became president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. wasn't my daughters black bean soup spectacular? [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. we believe the more
hurricane katrina they spent it on gucci bags and massage parlors and everything you can think of in addition to what was necessary. shopping is the key concern for the literally millions of people affected by the storm. what could be worse for states like new jersey than the congressional vote on how fema should spend its money? king was one of 11 members to vote against providing additional disaster relief to the victims of hurricane katrina back in 2005. >>> on a more positive note, chris christie's wish comes true. it's no secret he's a fan of bruce springsteen. over the years springsteen has not returned the love until last night. he reached out to the victims of hurricane sandy and then some. listen to this. we're a band that can't separate from the jersey shore. we'll send this out to all the people working down there, the police officers, the firemen, and also to the governor who has done such a hard job this past week. well, there you have it. the romance, the bromance, isn't as one-sided anymore. >>> also, what part of the presidential election got this 4-year-old col
information on your show some several weeks ago. that might be a beginning. >> let's bring in katrina vanden heuvel. i just find that comment on sunday by john mccain outrageous. why is he attacking susan rice like that? >> there are a number of reasons. i think he's trying to stay relevant as you said. i think this is a political hit job against the president. that's who they are aiming at. i think they are doing the fox and the fox fuelled hysteria about the attacks in benghazi. but this reminds me of the republican flight from reality, the post truth politics mitt romney engaged in. he would travel around the country saying president obama did an apology tour traveling the world. this guy, senator mccain, keeps talking about the danger o of america's light footprint. if you want to deal with sub tans and not just the calls mccain has made about weakness and light footprint, we need to look squarely at u.s. foreign policy in the region and what john mccain and lindsey graham are doing is they are distracting us from confronting the extraordinary challenges we face in north africa and the m
. and it reminds me of katrina, which is to say that i think that, you know, we think of the iraq war as cratering george bush's popularity, but it wasn't until katrina came along. and i think coalesce an argument that people were making which was that, you know, government had become sort of demonized by the bush white house and the republican congress and that we were seeing the potential effects of a government that couldn't respond in an emergency and that there was a substantive basis for that, for saying that we have to have a strong infrastructure. we have to be able to respond on a large scale quickly in a crisis. so i think to your point, yes. i think that is a fair argument to make right now. i think it's a little unfair that people are saying romney basically wants to abolish fema. there's a complicated debate that has a lot to do with sending responsibilities back to the states. i've heard people that romney basically wants to do away with fema. i don't think that's quite right. >> michael, there was a tweet yesterday that amused me from @lolgop who by the way everyone should follow. h
. >> brown would have said more but he was busy responding to katrina. >> garbage, crap, and nonsense. >> you're watching fox. you're hearing about a state department, the cia does nothing. >> you are misleading the american people. >> at least we don't live in swing state hell. >> jeep, now owned by the italians, is thinking of moving all production to china. >> the biggest load of bull in the world. >> why do you say these things, mi romney? >> joe biden is using his teeth to illuminate hoboken. >> find that special someone in the early voting line. >> our destiny is in the hands of the american people. >> i will fight for you and your family every single day as hard as i know how. >> let's get to our panel, dana 34i8 bank is political columnist for "the washington post" and toure is my colleague and the co-host of "the cycle." desperate mitt, desperate measures. in your column this week you write, when the stakes are high, as they are for mr. romney, it must win ohio, the truth is often the first casualty. does that explain mr. romney's completely dishonest and disturbing ad about chrysler
hurricane katrina to help individuals and businesses as well as the local government. let's talk about that legislation and the timetable. how fast are you looking to get this done? >> we're going try to get this done within the next three months, tom. i think it's very critical that we move. the moves have been great so far with bipartisan efforts with the governor and the president of the united states. i'm very hopeful about this. yesterday's meeting was trying to solidify the group so that we know we're going to have a tough battle getting any legislation through. i'm already working with three or four members on ways and means committee who know quite well, first of all, fema does not really cover except for loans, low-interest loans, the business community. these guys and gals are hurting out there, small businesses. we've got to get some form of tax deduction so that they can make themselves whole again. we want to keep people in business. second of all, home -- the homes. tremendous damage. there's a point beyond which insurance doesn't cover. we should provide that. that's wha
katrina in some ways. the governor said while more people were killed by katrina, sandy had a bigger economic impact because of the dense population of the new york city area. cuomo has invited house speaker john boehner to come to new york to tour the damage. >>> a peanut processing plant linked to salmonella won't we open today as planned. the fda stopped operations at sunland incorporated after 41 people in 20 states were sickened by tainted peanut butter. yesterday, the fda suspended sunland's registration preventing the company from producing or distributing any food. >>> was the death of former palestinian leader yasser arafat murder? was he poisoned? he died suddenly of a stroke, supposedly, in 2004, but a swiss lab said this summer that it found traces of a radioactive substance on his clothing. >>> the u.s. soldier accused of giving state secrets to wikileaks will speak for the first time since his arrest in 2010. bradley manning will testify today at a pre-trial hearing. he is expected to talk about his treatment, saying he's already been punished by being in solitary confi
, thanks. >> memories of hurricane katrina are inspiring one high school to come to the aid of hurricane sandy's victims. students and faculty on a mission to send a semitrailer stocked with canned foods, blankets and other item to the atlantic coast. great for them. meanwhile, hurricane sandy has left behind a trail of sadness for the lives and property lost in its wake. nbc's brian williams spent part of his childhood growing up near the beaches of the jersey shore. so yesterday he went back to assess the damage. >> reporter: in point pleasant beach, the white sands motel has been in business for 30 years. the pool is full of sand. this is what is left of one of the motel rooms. another shore landmark is jenks where cindy clous rolled out the storm in the local aquarium she runs. >> we heard this huge woosh. and within seconds the water level went from the first step up to the door knob. >> reporter: the power is still out. they're keeping the animals safe and alive with one generator. of course, it's supposed to be a little scary in here. you have the halloween decorations up. >> that
katrina tainted george bush's presidency. then isaac wiped out the first day of the republican national convention. now hurricane sandy. sandy, what kind of name is that? are you induced or a lady storm? big surprise, just when obama needs a boost, who shows up in a gender ambiguous weather system? a category 5 bi-hurricane. don't get me wrong, i don't mind you being a meteorological event but why must be so flam poiboya and in my face about it? no, i'm hurricane sandy. deal with me. >> all right. did you see this video yesterday? a 4-year-old girl in ft. collins, colorado, if you think you're sick of the presidential election, look to her reaction after a ride to her grocery store with her mom during which she listened to an mpr report about the campaign. >> because i'm tired of both obama and mitt romney. >> that's why you're crying? oh, it will be over soon, abby. okay? the election will be over soon, okay? >> okay. >> she speaks for so many. by the way, npr offered an apology to the little girl and said "only a few more days. only a few more days." here's a picture of little abigail
for president bush was of him hugging someone after a natural disaster. you know, the images of katrina, biggest single thing beyond the war in iraq that undermined confidence in president bush's leadership. you cannot get those images out of your head as you watch this stuff. >> except, you know what, katty kay? there is a certain appeal that i think is coming as a relief to people who are tired, who are tired of the vitriol, of the stupidity. and a politician who can work with the other side, isn't that something that in this new age of politics that's appealing? >> it's huge. and i think it's probably almost the overriding priority of whoever gets elected next tuesday is to be able to make this country governable again. and to be able to do that by bringing about a certain amount of cooperation on the things america needs to do between republicans and democrats. we saw it yesterday between chris christie and brearack oba. and it's going to be very interesting to watch today as the campaign trail resumes, whether there's a different tone. i wouldn't be surprised -- we've heard the president us
the potential return of fema trailers like those used in the wake of hurricane katrina and used not without a lot of controversy. >>> gas lines hours long stretched through the weekend across the tri-state area. in some cases, stations using gas-powered generators to pump fuel out of the ground. it could be several more days before the country's fuel shortage is resolved. in new york city where 145,000 residents still without power. yesterday's marathon was canceled. that happened for the first time in 40 years. but it didn't stop hundreds of runners from doing the right thing, showing up where the race was supposed to begin in statin ilan. instead of a marathon, they ran a relief effort, jogging through neighborhoods to help dig out debris and offer supplies and good for them. i actually went to staten island on saturday, myself, got a firsthand look. you jump on the staten island ferry, catch the s-78 bus. if you want to help, they could use a lot of hands. it is absolutely wiped out. the first thing you notice is the neighborhood coming together. people literally emptying the contents of
, of course, the next year faced katrina and a collection of disasters. how does the president keep his head down, not be swept away by the moment, and avoid the mistakes of his four predecessors? >> well, i think what is so sobering -- and this isn't a grand historical vision or a legacy moment -- because for him, the reality is going to be around 1:00 today when he comes out and says what he would do about the fiscal cliff. we can all laugh about the term as much as any of you, but the reality is really grim. when i started going through the numbers yesterday of just what taxpayers -- ordinary taxpayers -- are going to face, i had no idea that it wasn't just the bush tax cuts, even though i follow this stuff pretty closely, the minimum tax hitting, of all people, the most people who will be affected by the amt kicking in if congress were to let it happen. and you've been there, so you know that they'll blink at the last moment. but the most people of any state live in new jersey who are the middle-income people, people who make $75,000 a year and have two children will have to pay $4,000 m
have. what is your problem with that, katrina? >> let's have a chatty script, interactive, not robotic script. i respect the idea of going door-to-door. i respect the feedback. here is a radical idea. keep those field offices in those towns and communities after the election. you want a real feedback -- >> it does not translate into policy. >> there is a difference. i think you said this during the break, chris. there's a difference between marketing and democracy. that line is getting blurred. we need to watch out for that. i respect the door-to-door, the volunteers. i want the feedback loops to go back. the first step is voting on election day and what follows is building out of politics. >> let's disaggregate the two questions. there's a question about the effectiveness of winning elections. there's not a lot of question about it to the extent you believe in controlled experiments and so forth. i'm looking at you guys over there. but, then there's a broader kind of moral political theoretical question about democratic theory, what are the implications for a democratic mandate you ma
there. katrina. >> people need to know that we have come one step closer to ending the ineffective irrational and inhumane drug wars with the initiatives that passed in washington and colorado on november 6th. this is an opening for the president to instruct the department of justice to reprioritize the marijuana, prosecution of marijuana cases. but also to use this as a way to allow washington, colorado to implement these cases because the war on drugs disproportionately affects latino, african-americans and it's failed. >> colorado is an -- the story in colorado is fascinating. they're setting up the regulatory system. >> eli lake. people should know that the white house and the cia write the policy that was supposed to endure for drone target, china developed their own military drones that they unveiled this week as a military air show. it's not just america and israel anymore. >> inevitable. heather hole bert. >> people should know as we go back to the fiscal cliff/curve discussions, pentagon contractors, have enough money to ride them out for six months unlike military familie
katrina where it was failures on the part of the federal government's response. you don't have that negative aspect. you have chris christie, the most visible republican in the country. certainly according to the media one of the better liked ones. he's out there using his platform to vouch for the leadership of the democratic president. i think that makes a powerful statement to people. i think having bloomberg weigh in makes a pretty strong statement to people as well. and i think just -- it's tough to quantify this. i think it's impossible to quantify this. to me it creates this noise that's sort of in the air, in the media air, and sort of in the conversational air in this country. it creates noise that i think takes wavering voters who maybe were soft obama supporters or soft romney supporters, i could see it moving them, you know, a small share of people, but i could see it moving people toward obama making them more comfortable with the idea of re-electing him. if it's a 1% or something, small, but it's big in the context of this election. >> in the context of endorsemen
was the head of fema when katrina struck, and he criticized the president for being too quick to respond to this tragedy. i say bring it on. more criticism like that. >> and he wasn't afraid to hammer the romney campaign over their continued use of the completely misleading jeep ad, in the way that only bill clinton can do. >> when i was a kid and i got caught with my hand in a cookie jar, my face got red and i took my hand out of the cookie jar. this guy gets caught, he digs down and gets some more cookies. they actually increased the ad buy on an ad they knew was false because they think you're dumb. i think you're smart and i think barack obama will be the next president. >> "mork times" blog shows president obama ahead by less than 1 point. president clinton's appeal with white certain voters could be the final push the president needs in the state of virginia. let's bring in joy reid. i want to say i've never seen a former president be so effective. i think a lot of people are going to be able to point to bill clinton and say this is one of the major reasons why president obama was
voiced came from michael brown who was the head of fema when katrina struck. and he criticized the president for being too quick to respond to his tragedy. i say bring it on. >> and he wasn't afraid to hammer the romney campaign over their continued use of the completely misleading jeep ad in the way that only bill clinton can do. >> when i was a kid and i caught caught with my hand in the cookie jar, i sort of shrugged my shoulders, my face got red and i took my hand out of the cookie char. this guy gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he digs down and gets more cookies. i actually increased the ad on an ad they knew was false because they think you're dumb. i think you're smart. and i think barack obama will be the next president. >> new york times 538 blogs shows president obama added virginia by less than one point. pthd clinton's appeal with white, southern voters could be the final push the president needs in the state of virginia. let's bring in the managing editor. i've never seen a former president be so effective. i don't know how i'll be able to point to bill
off the ball and got accustomed to thinking going his way. katrina happened in the second term, and they just are not as responsive. good folks leave. so the test for this president is given the conditions of the country, how do i get the best people in here and probably shake up my team and be responsible to some of the criticism i have received. in the second term you have a chance to make your mark. the president is smart enough to know that he's not at this stage going to be remembered as a great president. if he wants to be remembered as a great president, not just the first african-american president, he has to take it to the next level in the next term. >> all right. always an honor to have you here. thank you very much. >> you'll get over that. i promise. >> up next, our final state of the day in the spin, and i hear there's some big changes. people want to change their maps again. we have a big show for you live from democracy plaza as "the cycle" rolling on for monday, november 5th. kornacki says it sounds orwelian. i say i love america. >>> time for your business ent
to the response to hurricane katrina. what president obama did when he came into office was strongly and unapologetically assert the government's role in dealing with our problems. in a wide array of he car market, small businesses, tax reform. he that at great personal, political risk. and what he got back in return was, a very strong attack on the notion that we're in this together and that government has a role to play. first in the grass roots of the tea party on the ground and then in the air in what you documented, martin, and what the audience knows, one of the most well-funded attacks in the history of american politics. what i think happened last night is more than just a re-election of barack obama as a man that people trust to lead our country, which is, i ink, good. i think something deeper happened. i think there was an endorsement of the notion, liberal notion, that government has a role to play here and can help everyone and even the playing field. i think we're in an historic period today. >> people said yes. dr. peterson, wasn't there also a victory for the president
think, on things like iraq, katrina, tax breaks, social issues and these social safety net, among other things? then they rely on the right wing spin machine to spread their lies. with this election put their information campaign in the spotlight big time. people took notice. for months, all the numbers pointed to a win for president obama. republicans have been making things up to convince people that romney was going to win this thing. >> if they're in trouble with the early vote they will lose huo and the election. >> these polls are conducted by people who want obama elected and want their agenda. >> too many people weighting their model on the 2008 model showing a disproportionate turnout. >> it will be the biggest surprise in recent american political history. it will rekindle the whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail biter where in fact i think romney will win by quite a bit. >> republicans and the romney campaign actually believed all of this garbage, so their defeat was pretty hard to handle. one romney advisor said romney was quote shell-shocked by the
you want to know when watergate happened? his second term. when katrina happened? george bush's second term. when barack obama was elected the first time, they summed it up with this head line. "black man given nation's worst job." that was for the start of his first term. might be more apt for second term. the second term is when the job turns out to be a difficult job for presidents. if you go back to woodrow wilson in his second term trying to join the league of nations, that was pretty much the end of wilson. that was his second term. when it was truman in his second term during the korean war, he fired general mcarthur. the country responded by throwing parades for the general who got fired. and harry truman left office with approval ratings that dick cheney would kill for, but for everyone else would see that as a disaster. second terms are almost always seen as a disaster, then at least when the big disappointments happen and often the failures. when the soviet union beat us, when the soviet union beat the united states to put the first space satellite into orbit, when no nation
play a positive role in our lives. one of the reasons katrina was such a big scandal is for years, particularly under clinton, who really did a good job of reforming fema. we said, yeah, this is one of the things the federal government does well. and when states get into trouble like this, yes, they can do things for themselves and they do a lot of stuff for themselves. but they've got to have the fed. i think right now, he has no choice but to say, well, whatever i said before, i'm going to keep fema. >> e.j. dionne, are we going to be lacking on this campaign, if romney loses, saying, it was the 47% tsunami. that it really was that that set the table for a lot of other problems that he just couldn't overcome throughout this campaign? >> well, i think that the -- whatever momentum romney had from the first debate stopped. and my reading of the polls is the last week had already been going at least slightly in obama's direction. and at least on the first couple of days, from the reaction to what the president did, from the difficulties romney has, this appears to be helping obama
of the indelible images of government failure after katrina. that's what people are reminded of. that's when you had a president and a federal government that did not work, did not come to the aid of people. so you don't have to talk about the bush legacy. you don't have to draw the comparison because it's right there in people's heads. in the case of our dear friend on radio, what's left of his head is xleerly exploding. >> ideologue is the kindest thing said about rush limbaugh on my show. richard wolffe always keeps it classy. richard wolff sxechlt chryst'll ball, thank you both very much for joining us tonight. coming up, mitt romney actually tells the crowd in ohio that he knows all about hurricane cleanup because, this is absolutely true, this is what he told them, he once had to help clean up the football field after a football game when he was in high school. seriously. that's his experience with cleanup. and that's in the "rewrite." and with the election just six days away, will voters across the northeast be able to actually vote on election day? will the hurricane problem still be goi
the national feeling here. when katrina happened, i got a call the day after from haley barbour, the republican governor from mississippi, who, of course, is a friend of mine. and he said, i need guardsmen. can you send me guardsmen? pennsylvania had, you know, no nickel on that dime. we're thousands -- hundreds of miles away from the gulf, but we have 20,000 guardsmen, and i activated 2,100 and sent them down to mississippi and to louisiana, and the interesting thing, chris, is i got tons of letters citizens of those states thanking me, but i also got letters from my own guardsmen, who said it was the best thing they've done since they've been in the national guard, to help americans from another area of the country who are suffering. and that's the spirit that takes over, and it's, as you said, what makes us a special place. >> well, that's why people like you and they like haley barbour, thank you, governor rendell, and thank you, david corn. you never get to be a governor, you don't get to know what that's like. and for the latest on the devastation on the jersey shore, we turn to ron allen
. >> he would have said more but he was still responding to katrina. >> you will be rescued by private sector volunteers like paul ryan who will come to your devastated town and wash your already clean pots. >> bell go trick-or-treating on the same route i went on when i was a little guy. >> i usually put a condom over my head and go out as a -- never mind. >> he's not going to get any of your votes. >> far left is threatening violence if president obama loses the election. >> we voted him off the island. >> five more days. >> together we will renew those bonds and reaffirm that spirit that makes the united states of america the greatest nation on earth. >>> let's get right to our panel now, krystal ball is my colleague and the co-hass host of "the cycle." jimy williams joining us from washington. we have live pictures of president obama speaking in northern new jersey. isn't this what a disaster like this required, a state governor to communicate and then cooperate with the president of the united states? >> it's absolutely what's required, and i think it is what americans want from t
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